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This topic can be used for reporting erroneous use of the English language on the website of Observado or its forum. All erroneous use on the webite may be reported and all erroneous text in pinned information text and titles of topics. There is no need for reporting erroneous text supplied by users or in unpinned topics.

All contributions for improvements are welcome. Thank you :duim:


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« Laatst bewerkt op: juni 07, 2019, 13:55:47 pm door Erik van Dijk »
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #1 Gepost op: september 01, 2018, 13:17:05 pm »

Homepage - Transect Monitoring:

1. Is there a reason to choose the American spelling "traveled" instead of the English "travelled"?  :right:
2. Third last paragraph: how much research do you have to make to discover a species if it is present :wrong:
                                   how much research do you have to DO to discover IF A SPECIES is present  :right: DT: changed accordingly (this screen has a cache of one day, so the changes I made yesterday are visible only now)

There are a couple of other minor issues - do you want the text in perfect English or is "bruikbaar" okay?

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« Laatst bewerkt op: september 02, 2018, 13:06:18 pm door David Tempelman »
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #2 Gepost op: september 01, 2018, 15:59:22 pm »

thanks James - ANY help is appreciated, also minor items.
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #3 Gepost op: september 01, 2018, 23:16:00 pm »

This is my provisional version of the Transect Monitoring text - I would need to see the original Dutch text before I was completely happy about it.

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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #4 Gepost op: september 01, 2018, 23:49:28 pm »

Some small possible improvements that I've found, with varying degrees of necessity.

On the home page, under Today: xxx Number of Species -> xxx Recorded species  :right: but cached, so check tomorrow
On the "new observation" page, under Activity: Longterm stay -> Long-term stay  :right:
Under Settings : "Minimum 5 characters, no spaces. Starting with a character" -> "Minimum 5 characters, no spaces. Starting with a letter"  :right:
Same page: "real name" (should that be changed to "name"?): "First name surname or initials surname example(s) P. Brown, David Smitd" -> First name, surname, surname with initials. For example: P. Brown, David Smith"  :-X can't change this myself will ask
Same page: "show time along my observation" -> "Display time of my observations" (or something)  :right:
Under the header "My data": "Check lists" -> "checklists"  :right:

PS. The "Help" section is under construction? I can write a first draft, if you want?
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #5 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 12:53:10 pm »

This is my provisional version of the Transect Monitoring text - I would need to see the original Dutch text before I was completely happy about it.

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I would have to ask if such a Dutch original tekst exists
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #6 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 13:03:48 pm »

PS. The "Help" section is under construction? I can write a first draft, if you want?
[/quote]

DT: thanks - will ask if still relevant (because of redesign). Edit: this will greatly change in the new version so please hold.
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #7 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 13:04:45 pm »

Original TEXT exists :police:  ;D Do you want me to have a look at some of the older news posts on the homepage?

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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #8 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 13:07:50 pm »

a typo in the typo section  :lol:

I would leave old items as there are. thanks
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #9 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 13:27:16 pm »

https://observation.org/users_rollen.php

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Explaining the different staff functions
validator = Person can validate all observations of the assigned species group
mapper = Person can modify and submit polygones of area's
expert = Can create and alter species texts
taxonomist = Can create and modify species
translator = Can translate texts and species names.
committee = Person is a member of an external committe

area's -> areas  :right:
committe -> committee  :right:

Also, it'd be better to start every sentence in the same manner. There's a dot where there isn't supposed to be one. All corrections applied: :right:

Citaat
Explaining the different staff functions
validator = A person who can validate all observations of the assigned species group
mapper = A person who can modify and submit polygones of areas
expert = A person who can create and alter species texts
taxonomist = A person who can create and modify species
translator = A person who can translate texts and species names
committee = A person who is a member of an external committee
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #10 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 13:42:12 pm »

what about this: (in comment section)

"the reciever speaks a different language: English"

wouldn't  "observer" be better ?
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #11 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 14:16:45 pm »

what about this: (in comment section)

"the reciever speaks a different language: English"

wouldn't  "observer" be better ?

Het zou hoe dan ook 'receiver' moeten zijn.
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #12 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 15:04:57 pm »

At: https://observation.org/ranks_v2.php

If you do not see your own numbers or are they outdated? Start your lifelist

=>

If you own ranking is not shown in the ranking or is the total of your total outdated? Click here to start or update your ranking.

The same link should be added to the other two ranking links for consistency.
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #13 Gepost op: september 02, 2018, 17:45:43 pm »

@Lukas - polygons doesn't have an "e".  :right:

@Erik - if your own ranking is not shown or the total (all species groups)is outdated, click here to start or update your ranking.

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@James Even better :duim:
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #14 Gepost op: september 04, 2018, 21:14:47 pm »

Great initiative.

To start with the description of this very board ('Observation.org'):

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Sightings in the world (outside Belgium & The Netherlands) can be introduced in Observado.org. You can use your account of waarneming.nl, waarnemingen.be

This text should be either removed or replaced by one that actually describes what this board is about.
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #15 Gepost op: september 04, 2018, 22:50:26 pm »

Thanks

Please propose any changes - I feel unconfortable with 'Sightings' but hey, not native speaker  ;)
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #16 Gepost op: september 04, 2018, 23:01:10 pm »

Sightings in any country outside Belgium and the Netherlands can be recorded on Observado.org. You can use your Waarneming account (Waarneming.nl or Waarneming.be).

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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #17 Gepost op: september 04, 2018, 23:02:04 pm »

thanks Again -

Erik can you plz. edit this ?
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #18 Gepost op: september 04, 2018, 23:19:56 pm »

(Waarneming.nl or Waarneming.be).

Waarnemingen.be!
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« Reactie #19 Gepost op: september 05, 2018, 07:55:46 am »

But what I was also trying to say was that that line should describe what that forum board is about, not about how to use Observation.org. (Cf rest of board descriptions)
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #20 Gepost op: september 07, 2018, 18:48:26 pm »

Thanks

Please propose any changes - I feel unconfortable with 'Sightings' but hey, not native speaker  ;)

I checked E-bird. They use both "observation" and "sighting". Birdguides uses sighting.

https://www.birdguides.com/sightings

So no problem, although I prefer observation,
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #21 Gepost op: september 07, 2018, 19:12:23 pm »

Sightings in any country outside Belgium and the Netherlands can be recorded on Observado.org. You can use your Waarneming account (Waarneming.nl or Waarneming.be).

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I already tried to modify this text, but somehow I can not access it.
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« Reactie #22 Gepost op: september 07, 2018, 19:17:08 pm »

This may sound a bit pedantic....

A sighting is seeing something when you are outside, a record is when you record the sighting (for instance on Waarneming). They are often used loosely as synonyms. Have a look at the text under Casual Records, particularly the last sentence -

https://www.bto.org/volunteer-surveys/birdtrack/taking-part/recording-your-sightings

I would avoid observation.

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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #23 Gepost op: september 07, 2018, 19:29:26 pm »

This may sound a bit pedantic....

A sighting is seeing something when you are outside, a record is when you record the sighting (for instance on Waarneming). They are often used loosely as synonyms. Have a look at the text under Casual Records, particularly the last sentence -

https://www.bto.org/volunteer-surveys/birdtrack/taking-part/recording-your-sightings

I would avoid observation.

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www.sighting.org  :angel:
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #24 Gepost op: september 11, 2018, 18:30:46 pm »

While trying to add an observation of a mollusc I ran into the following flaws:
Under Appearance: cuttle-fish -> cuttlefish
Under Method: "trush smithy" -> "thrush smithy"
"in relation with": There's a that's empty. Suggestion: "If you found the species in a symbiotic relationship with another species, enter it here"
At the after "method": "... determinate ..." -> "... identify ..."
When hovering the cursor over the symbol in the map: "Find mij location" -> "find/use my location"
after "until": "If you want to hide this observation ..." -> "If you want to temporarily hide this observation ..." (Not an error, but a suggestion)
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #25 Gepost op: september 11, 2018, 19:12:13 pm »

While trying to add an observation of a mollusc I ran into the following flaws:
Under Appearance: cuttle-fish -> cuttlefish
Under Method: "trush smithy" -> "thrush smithy"
"in relation with": There's a that's empty. Suggestion: "If you found the species in a symbiotic relationship with another species, enter it here"
At the after "method": "... determinate ..." -> "... identify ..."
When hovering the cursor over the symbol in the map: "Find mij location" -> "find/use my location"
after "until": "If you want to hide this observation ..." -> "If you want to temporarily hide this observation ..." (Not an error, but a suggestion)

That's a whole bunch of requests which can be solved with my rights.

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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #26 Gepost op: september 20, 2018, 17:44:47 pm »

https://eur.observation.org/waarneming/view/161518615

'Remark' : wouldn't it be better to use 'Comment'?
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Re: Reports of proposed improvements on English text in Observado and its forum
« Reactie #28 Gepost op: oktober 05, 2018, 12:29:49 pm »

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Details of this observation are hidden by the observer.

This is your own observation. Details are visible for you.

I'd say to you.

 :right:
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« Reactie #29 Gepost op: oktober 05, 2018, 16:35:39 pm »

I think you are right:

http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-comment-and-remark

OK, changing 'remark' into 'comment'.

I would sense that 'Comments' is better than 'Remarks'; but maybe 'Commentary' better still?
https://eur.observation.org/waarneming/view/161518615?lang=en&local=xx

If a native speaker can comment on this plz?
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