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jeroenvdborre

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species database changed - where to find species id?
« Gepost op: mei 24, 2018, 18:25:22 pm »

Hi all,

I have two observations from Sweden that have been changed in "Species not in database". The details say:
"Species does not exist anymore. refresh specieslists !!! Original species id :597040"

How can I retrieve what species that was? As they are now, these observations have become useless to me, and I would hate to see this happen to any other of my observations.

Thanks in advance,
Jeroen.
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Re: species database changed - where to find species id?
« Reactie #1 Gepost op: mei 25, 2018, 07:59:23 am »

Jeroen, update your specieslists in your app regularly then this problem will not occur
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Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=1534.0

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Re: species database changed - where to find species id?
« Reactie #2 Gepost op: mei 25, 2018, 11:09:24 am »

Dear Hisko,

Thanks for your reply, but this isn't about the app, it's about the website.
We are talking about two observations from almost a year ago (20 and 21 June 2017), which I am 100% sure were correctly imported from the app to the database. I went through all my obs shortly after I got home, so I would have noted them earlier. There must have been a change in the species lists when these obs were already in the db for a while.
https://observation.org/waarneming/view/143496964
https://observation.org/waarneming/view/143496965

Of course, taxonomic insights change and the species lists must reflect this. I am perfectly willing to change these obs to a currently accepted species name, but as it is now, I have no option to retrieve what it was I saw there! Surely, one can't expect me to remember this by heart?
The only thing I need is a way to look up wat that original species id 597040 was.

In the end, we are also talking about reliability and user confidence in the system. If I can't trust my obs will be recoverable and interpretable to me in the long term, I might as well start using a paper notebook again.

Best regards,
Jeroen.
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Re: species database changed - where to find species id?
« Reactie #3 Gepost op: mei 25, 2018, 19:37:42 pm »

The species has already been merged in july 2016: https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=57476.msg1987496;topicseen#msg1987496, so the same problem must have been there in june '17.

You'll want https://observation.org/soort/info/699313
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Re: species database changed - where to find species id?
« Reactie #4 Gepost op: mei 28, 2018, 10:13:04 am »

Thanks for pointing me to the right taxon.
J.
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