2 stuks

Gestart door Ted van der Knaap, oktober 28, 2010, 20:20:20 PM

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Ted van der Knaap

Vanmiddag in 'n grote groep Kollen, Brandjes en Grauwe deze 2 stuks.

De Indische gans lijkt me niet helemaal zuiver en vraag me af wat voor mix de 2de is.

Wie kan/wil er wat van zeggen?
groet-je, Ted van der Knaap (always learning!)

Rikstar

eerste lijkt me inderdaad geen zuivere indische gans, misschien indische x grauwe gans? of indische x soepgans of heel mogelijk een afwijkende indische gans.

2de vogel lijkt me keizergans x brandgans
met vriendelijke groeten,
Rik v/d Starre

Alcedo atthis

i am not 100 % sure on the first one- from coloration there must be soepgans in it, and i cannot excludeit is just a pure soepgans with no other species involved...

the second one is not Keijzerx brand, but sneeuw x brand.white belly and white lines on tertials point to that as well as not black bill and probably grey? legs


Keijzer x brand would have black bill and orange or dirty orange-brown to brownish  legs
greetings,
Jörn Lehmhus

Ted van der Knaap

Citaat van: Alcedo atthis op oktober 29, 2010, 23:25:55 PM
i am not 100 % sure on the first one- from coloration there must be soepgans in it, and i cannot excludeit is just a pure soepgans with no other species involved...

the second one is not Keijzerx brand, but sneeuw x brand.white belly and white lines on tertials point to that as well as not black bill and probably grey? legs


Keijzer x brand would have black bill and orange or dirty orange-brown to brownish  legs

Thanks Jörn for the determination Sneeuw X Brand... ...I think the first one has certainly Soep in it but I also think Indische (two black stripes on the head, light-grey side!).. ..or is that just coincidence!!
groet-je, Ted van der Knaap (always learning!)

Alcedo atthis

could be coincidence... but I also can´t be sure...
greetings,
Jörn Lehmhus