Reporting species with a double entry

Gestart door laatvlieger, augustus 13, 2008, 17:34:38 PM

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hiskodevries

ja en nu ?
ow wacht de belgische heeft een verkeerde spelling. ik voeg ze samen
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

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caliprobola

Papilio memnon werd recent gesplit
Maar dit taxon staat er ook nog in als de voormalige ondersoort:

Papilio memnon agenor
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/234868

is een synoniem van

Papilio agenor
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1185440

hiskodevries

Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

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Maico Weites

#1324
Arrhenia chlorocyanea (Pat.) Redhead, Lutzoni, Moncalvo & Vilgalys
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1039245

is een synoniem  van

Omphalina chlorocyanea (Pat.) Singer
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/13827
Deze naam wordt gebruikt door o.a. Verspreidingsatlas.

bronnen o.a.:
https://www.mycoportal.org/portal/taxa/index.php?tid=310433

 :right:
Maico
Waarnemingen en foto's:
Nederland: https://waarneming.nl/users/15919/
Rest v/d wereld: https://observation.org/users/15919/

armin.dahl

#1325
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/827733
Phyllodesma kermesifolium (Lajonquière, 1960)

has a typo in the author's name and is a synonym of

https://old.observation.org/soort/view/106834
Phyllodesma kermesifolia (Lajonquière, 1960)

https://old.observation.org/soort/view/827735
Phyllodesma suberifolium (Duponchel, 1842)
is synonym to
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/106833
Phyllodesma suberifolia (Duponchel, 1842)

References
https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Phyllodesma_kermesifolia
https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Phyllodesma_suberifolia

thanks for cleanup!


Armin: https://observation.org/users/116008/
A fool is a man who never tried an experiment in his life. - Erasmus Darwin

hiskodevries

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Pieter Van Dorsselaer

Goeiemorgen,
Het verouderde synoniem Bufo calamita voor Rugstreeppad mag verwijderd worden.
https://observation.org/species/80687/
Er zitten geen waarnemingen meer in, de oudere die er nog in zaten werden aangepast naar de huidige correcte naam Epidalea calamita.

Groeten,
Pieter

hiskodevries

uh nee die verwijderen we nooit
die komen tot in de volgend decennium nog via apps binnen
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Tobias Seifert

#1329
Dear Admins,

Elateroides dermestoides (Linnaeus, 1761)
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/848731

is a Synonym of

Hylecoetus dermestoides (Linnaeus, 1761)
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/22843

sources:
https://www.biolib.cz/cz/taxon/id10126/
https://www.gbif.org/species/1034609

Thanks! :right:
Tobias Seifert
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Tobias Seifert

#1330
The family
Lymexylonidae
https://old.observation.org/familie/view/10742    (which looks as if it is empty..?)

is a synonym of

this family:
Lymexylidae
https://old.observation.org/familie/view/16628

References:
https://www.gbif.org/species/7837
https://www.biolib.cz/cz/taxon/id10124/
I can't even find an author of the wrong name, looks like it's a weird typo that got spread around...

Thanks! :right:
Tobias Seifert
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armin.dahl

#1331
Insects > Moths > Noctuidae

Hadula melanopa
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/827916

is synonym to

Anarta melanopa
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/719144

Reference: https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Anarta_melanopa

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Tobias Seifert

#1333
Beetles/Coleoptera: Carabidae

Cicindela littoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/802732

is a synonym of

Calomera littoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/212462



therefore, the subspecies

Cicindela littoralis littoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1186395

is a synonym of

Calomera littoralis littoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1191673


and the subspecies

Cicindela littoralis nemoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1186396

is a synonym of

Calomera littoralis nemoralis
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/604798



sources:
LÖBL, I. & LÖBL, D. (2017) [Eds.]: Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera. Volume 1 (Revised and Up-dated Edition). – 1443 pp. (Leiden, Boston: BRILL).
https://www.biolib.cz/cz/taxon/id3655/
https://carabidae.org/taxa/littoralis-fabricius-1787-185

--> This also results in the respective subspecies

thank you for helping with the cleanup!

This also results in the respective subspecies

 :right:
Tobias Seifert
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Joey Bom

#1334
Grijze bolsnuittor (Kevers) staat volgens mij twee keer in het systeem: één keer met Nederlandse naam, maar met een foute wetenschappelijke naam, en één keer zonder Nederlandse naam, maar wel met een correcte wetenschappelijke naam.

oud (fout):
Philopedon plagiatus (Schaller, 1783)
https://waarneming.nl/species/19200/

nieuw (goed):
Philopedon plagiatum (Schaller, 1783)
https://waarneming.nl/species/600924/

Bron: https://www.gbif.org/species/5713220 :right:

Tobias Seifert

Tobias Seifert
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hiskodevries

@joey, jouw melding vraag ik even na.
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

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Jaap Winkelman

Citaat van: Tobias Seifert op maart 05, 2024, 23:27:35 PM... source:
https://www.biolib.cz/en/taxon/id3658/
https://www.gbif.org/species/8324031

These are not reliable sources for taxonomy and systematics. Biolib-cz is a (good) photo site and GBIF is a collection of records provided by institutions without verification.
Use only the most recently updated and revised edition of the Catalog of Palaearctic Coleoptera series, Brill. See https://brill.com/display/serial/CPC
This has been specially compiled by thorough research by international experts for nomenclature purposes.

Tobias Seifert

Citaat van: Jaap Winkelman op maart 06, 2024, 21:50:18 PMThese are not reliable sources for taxonomy and systematics. Biolib-cz is a (good) photo site and GBIF is a collection of records provided by institutions without verification.

Dear Jaap,

if you take a closer look at the forum, you will see that i often refer to this standard work. however, things from this catalogue have already been "not approved" because obs is following GBIF. I can't understand that because, as you've already mentioned, it's not really a taxonomic basis. The problem with the Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera (CPC) is that it is not available online and therefore not available to other people. That's why I always give biolib (which in my opinion is more than just a photo page - other large nature observation platforms are also based on this taxonomy...) or GBIF, as GBIF also has a good basis in some groups.

Apart from all that, I don't think this public request for taxon changes and suchlike is a good solution. I would like to see a platform where taxonomists from certain groups can exchange ideas and make decisions together, including the possibility of exchanging literature.

All the best
Tobias Seifert
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Tobias Seifert

Cicindela quadripunctata
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/889559

is a synonym to

Calomera littoralis quadripunctata
https://old.observation.org/soort/view/1191699

source:
LÖBL, I. & LÖBL, D. (2017) [Eds.]: Catalogue of Palaearctic Coleoptera. Volume 1 (Revised and Up-dated Edition). – 1443 pp. (Leiden, Boston: BRILL).

Thanks!
Tobias Seifert
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hiskodevries

#1340
Tobias, this species is now a synonym of Calomera littoralis https://old.observation.org/soort/info/212462
A book is not always the best taxonomic reference, at the time it is printed the content is already outdated.
Gbif is also not a reference. We need to have an online reference or just take the best of all
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Gabriel Ziegler

#1341
Hello!
I have found an incorrect species name in Insecta > Hymenoptera > Formicidae (ants):

Monomorium foricola Jerdon, 1851 - 555374
https://observation.org/species/555374/

is neither a valid taxon nor a synonym of one.*
I can only assume that it is a misspelling of the valid species

Monomorium floricola (Jerdon, 1851) - 813830
https://observation.org/species/813830/

The two observations associated with the incorrect species cannot be confirmed in my opinion. If possible, I suggest assigning these observations to Monomorium floricola anyway and deleting the incorrect taxon, since it is not a synonym. However, I do not know the standard procedure for such cases, and I look forward to your feedback.

Greetings!
Gabs

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*no entries in online databases Biolib.cz-Results for "Monomorium f", genus Monomorium on GBIF.org; no entry in Barry Boltons General Catalogue of the Ants of the World (May 2016 PDF File Version) :right:

armin.dahl

#1342
Hi together

Orthosia dalmatina (Wagner, 1909)
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/185240

is synonym to

Orthosia dalmatica (Wagner, 1909)  (author in brackets, wrong in GBIF!) 
https://old.observation.org/soort/info/1192594


References:
Wagner, F. (1909): Einige neue Lepidopterenformen. — Entomologische Zeitschrift 23 (4): 17-19. Stuttgart.
scan of the original publication
https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Orthosia_dalmatica#/image/5/1
under
https://lepiforum.org/wiki/page/Orthosia_dalmatica

Thanks for cleanup!

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Maakun

#1343
We hebben drie keer Alvania spec.

https://observation.org/species/692041/ Alvania spec.
https://observation.org/species/1187790/ Alvania spec. 1 (fossiel)
https://observation.org/species/1187791/ Alvania spec. 2 (fossiel)

Die laatste twee zijn natuurlijk geen soorten of verzamelsoorten, maar er is ook niet omschreven wat ze zouden moeten zijn en ze hebben 0 waarnemingen. Moeten die niet weg? :right:
Gr, Maarten

Victor HOYEAU

Lobaria scrobiculata : https://observation.org/species/598765/

is a synonym of Lobarina scrobiculata : https://observation.org/species/976224/

Lobarina is at least as well separated from Lobaria sensu stricto as Ricasolia and other segregates of Lobaria
References : https://doi.org/10.1017/S0024282912000825, https://doi.org/10.3732/ajb.1500207, https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-45455-x, & https://doi.org/10.35535/pfsyst-2020-0004.

Also see on Mycobank : https://www.mycobank.org/page/Name%20details%20page/197571 or on Species Fungorum : https://www.speciesfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=394919

It would be great if the common names could be transfered onto Lobarina scrobiculata too.

Thanks !

hiskodevries

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Maakun

Citaat van: Maakun op april 03, 2024, 11:22:09 AMDie laatste twee zijn natuurlijk geen soorten of verzamelsoorten, maar er is ook niet omschreven wat ze zouden moeten zijn en ze hebben 0 waarnemingen. Moeten die niet weg?

Zelfde geldt voor Gibbula spec:
https://observation.org/species/21080/
https://observation.org/species/1188649/
https://observation.org/species/1188650/
Gibbula spec. 2 (fossiel) en Gibbula spec. 3 (fossiel) lijken mij overbodig.

Gr, Maarten

hiskodevries

ik zal eens kijken of de site dat gaat begrijpen.
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Maakun

Citaat van: Maakun op april 11, 2024, 13:33:30 PM
Citaat van: Maakun op april 03, 2024, 11:22:09 AMDie laatste twee zijn natuurlijk geen soorten of verzamelsoorten, maar er is ook niet omschreven wat ze zouden moeten zijn en ze hebben 0 waarnemingen. Moeten die niet weg?

Zelfde geldt voor Gibbula spec:
https://observation.org/species/21080/
https://observation.org/species/1188649/
https://observation.org/species/1188650/
Gibbula spec. 2 (fossiel) en Gibbula spec. 3 (fossiel) lijken mij overbodig.



Er zijn er nog meer:
Epitonium spec. https://observation.org/species/683705/
Epitonium spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1187697/
Epitonium spec. 2 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1187698/

Calliostoma spec. https://observation.org/species/706122/
Calliostoma spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1184519/
Calliostoma spec. 2 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1185262/
Calliostoma spec. 3 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1185263/

Bittium spec. https://observation.org/species/684575/
Bittium spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1186269/
Bittium spec. 2 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1186270/

Abra spec. https://observation.org/species/684290/
Abra spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1189096/

Scutus spec. https://observation.org/species/972272/
Scutus spec. 1 https://observation.org/species/1187703/

Seila spec. https://observation.org/species/972300/
Seila spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1186272/

Sandbergeria spec. https://observation.org/species/1193040/
Sandbergeria spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1189095/

Pusillina spec. https://observation.org/species/689929/
Pusillina spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1188647/

Iothia spec. https://observation.org/species/965687/
Iothia spec. 1 (fossiel) https://observation.org/species/1188208/

En nog een niet-weekdier:
Limnodrilus spec. https://observation.org/species/212689/
Rivierschedeworm Limnodrilus spec. 1 https://observation.org/species/212825/
Gr, Maarten