Kogelspinnetje?

Gestart door Henri van Dodeweerd, januari 28, 2021, 22:30:30 PM

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Henri van Dodeweerd

Ik zou graag willen weten welke soort dit is.
Het gaat om deze waarneming: https://waarneming.nl/observation/206466984/.
1 Kogelspin onbekend - Theridiidae indet
datum: 2021-01-26
locatie: IJsselmuiden - Het meer (OV)

foto's:

Met vriendelijke groet,
Henri van Dodeweerd

SimeonI

Maybe Neottiura bimaculata.
Simeon

Henri van Dodeweerd

It is very similar. I put the observation on Neottiura bimaculata uncertain.
Thanks Simeon!
Met vriendelijke groet,
Henri van Dodeweerd

jvogels

I dont think this is neottiura, the coloration of the carapace does not match.

I think this is Phylloneta sp. On the second photograph, there are vague lateral stripes in the abdomen visible, and the carapax coloration also matches those of phylloneta sp.

SimeonI

I am not convinced at all. First, Neottiura bimaculata has lighter morphs where there is a median carapace band (see here). Second, dark main colour of the abdomen and greenish folium is something I have observed in dozens of Neottiura bimaculata juveniles but never in Phylloneta which has light abdomen sides. And legs of this juvenile are thin and long, comparable to those of an adult Phylloneta, also lackong any annulations.