Suggestions for improvements in translations

Gestart door Thijs Fijen, maart 09, 2016, 17:20:12 PM

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Thijs Fijen

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Thijs Fijen

Carnifex

in German for entering plants:

1.) under selection of the stadium it should say 'vegetativ', not 'vegetatif'
2.) under selection of Aktivität (gedrag) it should be 'adventiv', not 'adventif'
3.) there is still an English box to tick: Planted,sown,escaped or adventive --> Angepflanzt, ausgesät, entkommen oder adventiv

For species in general:
I'm not sure about the following, but for the term 'zeldzaamheit'/'rarity', I am more familiar with saying 'Häufigkeit' (frequency) instead of 'Seltenheit'. Minor issue though.

Best
Lorin
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

hiskodevries

Citaat van: Carnifex op maart 09, 2016, 18:25:52 PM

3.) there is still an English box to tick: Planted,sown,escaped or adventive --> Angepflanzt, ausgesät, entkommen oder adventiv


Lorin, in which screen do you see these , http://waarneming.nl/soort/view/7280?from=2016-03-10&to=2016-03-10&prov=0&lang=de#
i see only translated words.

1 & 2  :right:
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

Carnifex

Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Douwe van der Ploeg

And in English that line also needs spaces after the commas, and if possibly at the bottom do km² instead of km2.
Douwe van der Ploeg

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: Douwe van der Ploeg op maart 10, 2016, 23:56:30 PM
And in English that line also needs spaces after the commas, and if possibly at the bottom do km² instead of km2.
Added the commas. I'm not happy with the non parallel structure. If someone has an suggestion.
Km2 in superscript is not possible, for me at least.

I only have rights to change English translations.
Thijs Fijen

Thijs Fijen

The German translation gives me opportunity to start another esthethics issue: in German, words like 'arten' should be capitalised. Yet, house style is to write it all non capitalised. I would suggest to change it all into capitalised, for all languages.
Perhaps a smaller font + every letter capitalised would also be ok: ARTEN
Thijs Fijen

hiskodevries

Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

Morten

http://waarneming.nl/soort/view/256

On the German language version of the site the great skua is noted as ''skua - Stercorarius skua''. Besides the non-capitalised noun, a better name would be ''Große Raubmöwe - Stercorarius skua'', as ''Skua'' is rather informal and inconsistent with the current German translations of other Stercorariidae on the site.
Groet, Morten


Thijs Fijen

I agree Morten, but is it the name given by IOC.. might bring it up to them? I'm sure it is just a mistake.
Thijs Fijen

Thijs Fijen

#10
Oh, I did capitalise the name :)
Thijs Fijen

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: Thijs Fijen op maart 16, 2016, 22:11:05 PM
I agree Morten, but is it the name given by IOC.. might bring it up to them? I'm sure it is just a mistake.
I've checked it in the source for the IOC (Illustrated checklist Birds of the World), and there it says: 'Skua'.
Thijs Fijen

Morten

Well, that's valid source at least. The immediate cause of my post was actually the lack of capitalisation, so that's fine now.
Groet, Morten


Carnifex

staying at the German website:

Entering observations for Wanzen etc., amongst the selection of a stadium the following should be changed:

macropteer --> makropter
micropter --> mikropter
Gall --> Galle

also, an order like Imago > Im. makro > Im. mikro would be nicer, without the 'Galle' in between

Best,
Lorin
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Carnifex

for Weichtiere:

leere Schale --> leeres Gehäuse oder einzelne Schale
fresh double valves --> frische Doppelschale
internal skeleton --> Innenskelett (what is this in Molluscs other than the cuttlebone/Schulp?)
Gall --> Galle
Schild --> Schulp??? not sure what this is referring to
Schale mit (Resten) der Muschel --> Schale mit (Resten der) Muschel
egg(mass) --> Ei(paket)
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Carnifex

for Pilze:

gall --> Galle

aktivität
farmed --> angebaut
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

hiskodevries

Lorin, do you expect to find more improvements for the German translations? If so you can better contact me on info@observation.org so you self help with the translations.
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

Carnifex

Citaat van: hiskodevries op maart 19, 2016, 16:33:59 PM
Lorin, do you expect to find more improvements for the German translations? If so you can better contact me

Ok, will do so  :duim:
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Carnifex

I need help with a translation:

In fish, selecting activity, what is the meaning of zeeg in this case?

Best,
Lorin
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Thijs Fijen

I have struggled with this word before.  I couldn't find a good English translation as well. This is what wikipedia says in Dutch: een net dat wordt uitgevaren en in een boog wordt dichtgetrokken waarbij de vis wordt ingesloten en gevangen.
Thijs Fijen

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: Thijs Fijen op maart 22, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
I have struggled with this word before.  I couldn't find a good English translation as well. This is what wikipedia says in Dutch: een net dat wordt uitgevaren en in een boog wordt dichtgetrokken waarbij de vis wordt ingesloten en gevangen.
Aha: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringwadenfischerei.
Thijs Fijen

Carnifex

Thanks a lot,

would never have guessed this
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: Carnifex op maart 22, 2016, 13:01:31 PM
Thanks a lot,

would never have guessed this
Me neither, had help from a native ;). Changed the English translation as well.
Thijs Fijen

David Tempelman

zeeg should be 'zegen'
Dutch for 'blessing'. at the time the device was a blessing for people hence the name
met vriendelijke groet,
David

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: David Tempelman op maart 25, 2016, 22:42:06 PM
zeeg should be 'zegen'
Dutch for 'blessing'. at the time the device was a blessing for people hence the name
Following the paralel structure of other behaviours, zeeg has the preference. The thing is called a zeeg, isn't it?
Thijs Fijen

David Tempelman

no, the device is called a zegen in Dutch  ;)
no idea, what 'zeeg' might be  :huh:
met vriendelijke groet,
David

Thijs Fijen

Citaat van: David Tempelman op april 04, 2016, 22:49:46 PM
no, the device is called a zegen in Dutch  ;)
no idea, what 'zeeg' might be  :huh:
Eh.. not that I am, nor Wikipedia is aware of: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeg
Or the second hit on google: http://www.markenleij.nl/werkgroepen/?p=611.

Looks like there are multiple names for the same thing!
Thijs Fijen

marijn

Citaat van: Thijs Fijen op april 04, 2016, 22:57:37 PM
Citaat van: David Tempelman op april 04, 2016, 22:49:46 PM
no, the device is called a zegen in Dutch  ;)
no idea, what 'zeeg' might be  ???
Eh.. not that I am, nor Wikipedia is aware of: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeg
Or the second hit on google: http://www.markenleij.nl/werkgroepen/?p=611.

Looks like there are multiple names for the same thing!
Interesting :)
'Zegen' definitely seems to be the most used term of the two and the one used by authoritative sources like RAVON. Perhaps the use of 'zeeg' is based on a misunderstanding of the (grammatical) number of zegen.
Marijn Prins

Carnifex

There is a funny error in translation of the German version:
Instead of Länder, it reads lnder, so an ä is missing, and it should be capitalized (as most of the words should be, but that's not the point here).
However, as you cannot discriminate a small-letter 'L' from an 'I', this word reads as Inder = Indiër in Dutch  :rolleye:

See attached file
Lorin; Oostenrijks gebruiker

Vincent Hart

Citaat van: marijn op april 05, 2016, 15:41:27 PM
Citaat van: Thijs Fijen op april 04, 2016, 22:57:37 PM
Citaat van: David Tempelman op april 04, 2016, 22:49:46 PM
no, the device is called a zegen in Dutch  ;)
no idea, what 'zeeg' might be  ???
Eh.. not that I am, nor Wikipedia is aware of: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeg
Or the second hit on google: http://www.markenleij.nl/werkgroepen/?p=611.

Looks like there are multiple names for the same thing!
Interesting :)
'Zegen' definitely seems to be the most used term of the two and the one used by authoritative sources like RAVON. Perhaps the use of 'zeeg' is based on a misunderstanding of the (grammatical) number of zegen.
Marijn is probably right.
'Zeeg' is an arched line (derived from the Dutch verb 'zijgen'). 'Zegen' is a fishing net, derived from the Latin 'sagena' with the same meaning)
http://www.etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/zeeg1
http://www.etymologiebank.nl/trefwoord/zegen2


So the word your looking for is indeed 'zegen'  :)

Groet, Vincent


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