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Titel: which rodent is it
Bericht door: Petje op september 02, 2022, 17:56:25 PM
Hello all,

I have a question, this week I was on holiday in France. In a tree house, yes a tree house. During the first night I heard something under my bed. Apparently there was a nest with rodents there. My question is which rodent is it, because I can't find it anywhere.

(https://vv-static.bnnvara.nl/community/data/posts/2022/09/screenshot_20220901-221205_gallery_631115dbc3300_large.jpg)
Titel: Re: which rodent is it
Bericht door: OJGoreng op september 02, 2022, 19:28:40 PM
Edible dormouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_edible_dormouse), I think.
Titel: Re: which rodent is it
Bericht door: tekenaar op september 03, 2022, 10:43:29 AM
Yep, correct.

In Dutch zevenslaper/relmuis
Titel: Re: which rodent is it
Bericht door: Cygnus op september 03, 2022, 13:36:58 PM
According to Wikipedia:

Wild edible dormice are still consumed in Slovenia, as well as in Croatia. In Slovenia they are considered a rare delicacy and dormouse trapping is a tradition. Slovenians use several methods of trapping. The first used were the hollow-tree trapping method and the flat-stone trapping method. By the 17th century, the peasant trappers had invented the first self-triggering traps, usually made of different kinds of wood. In the 19th century, traps made from iron and steel were introduced. The trappers used many different types of bait to entice the dormice, ranging from pieces of fruit to bacon soaked in brandy. During the prime season, trappers could catch between 200 and 400 dormice, depending largely on what kind of trap they were using. Seasonal dormice feasts were welcome protein supplements for the impoverished peasantry. The people of Slovenia did not just catch the dormice for their meat: use of dormice for food and fur and of dormouse fat as an ointment is documented there since the 13th century.
Titel: Re: which rodent is it
Bericht door: tekenaar op september 03, 2022, 13:55:04 PM
Citaat van: Cygnus op september 03, 2022, 13:36:58 PM
According to Wikipedia:

Wild edible dormice are still consumed in Slovenia, as well as in Croatia. In Slovenia they are considered a rare delicacy and dormouse trapping is a tradition. Slovenians use several methods of trapping. The first used were the hollow-tree trapping method and the flat-stone trapping method. By the 17th century, the peasant trappers had invented the first self-triggering traps, usually made of different kinds of wood. In the 19th century, traps made from iron and steel were introduced. The trappers used many different types of bait to entice the dormice, ranging from pieces of fruit to bacon soaked in brandy. During the prime season, trappers could catch between 200 and 400 dormice, depending largely on what kind of trap they were using. Seasonal dormice feasts were welcome protein supplements for the impoverished peasantry. The people of Slovenia did not just catch the dormice for their meat: use of dormice for food and fur and of dormouse fat as an ointment is documented there since the 13th century.

Dat klopt wel (ik woon in Slovenie), maar ik zie het nut van deze info niet echt. Bij een waarneming van een ree zet je toch ook geen opmerking dat reeen in diverse landen nog steeds geschoten worden?
Titel: Re: which rodent is it
Bericht door: Cygnus op september 03, 2022, 15:32:01 PM
Heel veel dingen die op dit forum geschreven worden hebben geen nut, maar kunnen desondanks toch informatief zijn. Ik werd getriggerd door de het "edible" gedeelte in de naam. Bij het zoeken naar de oorsprong van deze naam kwam ik tegen dat het eten van de Zevenslaper (door mensen) nog steeds voorkomt.