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Titel: Welke bladwesplarve op Filipendula ulmaria?
Bericht door: IngridA op september 23, 2019, 14:50:23 PM
I would like to know which species this is
It concerns this observation
https://observation.org/waarneming/view/180025071 (https://observation.org/waarneming/view/180025071)
Pflanzenwespe unbest. - Symphyta indet. observed at 2019-09-17 BRD - Cham (Landkreis)
Fotos:
(https://observation.org/fotonew/6/23378776.jpg)

(https://observation.org/fotonew/7/23378777.jpg)

(https://observation.org/fotonew/8/23378778.jpg)

thanks in advance Ingrid Altmann
Titel: Re: Welke bladwesplarve op Filipendula ulmaria?
Bericht door: John Bouwmans op september 23, 2019, 16:00:28 PM
This looks to me like a Cladius-larvae Ingrid. For hostplant Filipendula ulmaria ( http://www.brc.ac.uk/dbif/hostsresults.aspx?hostid=2296 ) Cladius pectinicornis is known, but also C. difformis. Looks also like Cladius brullei, but that one is not mentioned.
Titel: Re: Welke bladwesplarve op Filipendula ulmaria?
Bericht door: IngridA op september 23, 2019, 19:03:19 PM
Hello John,
thank you very much.
I had researched Cladius too but I thought that this species has a brownish head!!?? So I was a little confused.
But I have no idea what else it could be...
Titel: Re: Welke bladwesplarve op Filipendula ulmaria?
Bericht door: John Bouwmans op september 23, 2019, 19:30:15 PM
Hello Ingrid, See my "kweektopics" of the several Cladius-larvae and watch the variety and change in headcolours.

Find them in this link: https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=352513.msg1937618#msg1937618

EDIT:Voor het gemak even enkele van de Cladius-links bij elkaar gezet

Cladius brullei (F), waardplant Braam
https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=386509.msg2076733#msg2076733
Cladius pectinicornis (M), waardplant Hondsroos
https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=386524.msg2076800#msg2076800
Cladius rufipes (F), waardplant Iep
https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=387186.msg2078878#msg2078878
Cladius ulmi (F), waardplant Iep
https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=387200.msg2078927#msg2078927
Cladius compressicornis, waardplant Meidoorn 
https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=450662.msg2320264#msg2320264
Titel: Re: Welke bladwesplarve op Filipendula ulmaria?
Bericht door: IngridA op september 24, 2019, 09:51:05 AM
See my "kweektopics" of the several Cladius-larvae and watch the variety and change in headcolours.

Oh yes, really John.
Cladius brullei indeed looks like my larva and I read the host-plant ist Rubus. Filipendula is a Rosacaea too. So it could be possible that it also lives on this plant!!??