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Mobiel invoeren => ObsMapp => Topic gestart door: benseg op mei 20, 2011, 09:05:13 AM

Titel: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op mei 20, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
I am currently working on a new Android application for the introduction of observations.
I know that a beta version of ObsMapp exists but I am learning Android with my application and multiple visions are certainly interresting for the end users.
My application will be first available for Belgium (waarnemingen.be or observations.be) but I expect to provide a support for Netherlands in a second phase.

I have no problem to synchronise the species and validate the site with the following URL:
http://m.observations.be/csv_soorten.php?w=1&sg=<taxonomyID>
http://observations.be/gebied/autocomplete_name?q=<nom>

But I have the following issues:
- I have no URL available for the import of the Behavior and the Appearance depending of the Taxonomy (i.e. Bird)
- The URL for the import of the species is only compatible for Belgium.
- Do we have any alternative for the submission of multiple observations? I will use the simple POST of the Addition of observation page

Best Regards,
Benoît

Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: hiskodevries op mei 20, 2011, 17:02:35 PM
hello benoit,
at this moment we will not let other parties upload observations to one of our 3 sites.
we appreciate your efforts but we are very busy creating our own app so their is no time left for helping other parties.
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: marcel123 op mei 20, 2011, 17:18:20 PM
Citaat van: hiskodevries op maart 18, 2011, 14:44:44 PM
om iedereen de beschikking te geven over de in waarneming.nl/ waarnemingen.be en observado.org gebruikte kleed en gedragscodes
kunnen deze schermen gebruik worden
http://waarneming.nl/export/export_codes_kleed.php (http://waarneming.nl/export/export_codes_kleed.php)
http://waarneming.nl/export/export_codes_aktiviteit.php (http://waarneming.nl/export/export_codes_aktiviteit.php)
Gebruik in je bestand dan de waarden die in de kolom code staan, dat levert een nog nauwkeurigere data omzet op.
LET OP de codes zijn per soortgroep verschillend. Ter plaatse bij vogels heeft een andere code dan bij zoogdieren

Will this answer help?
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op mei 21, 2011, 15:01:51 PM
Hisko,

Thanks for your answer even if it is pity that you close any initiative.
But I understand that your application has the priority.

I hoop that you will provide more information in the communication/service in the future.
I am available for any discussion.

Best Regards,
Benoît
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op mei 21, 2011, 15:08:24 PM
Marcel,

Your page helps me but I already had these lists.
What I needed, was a JSON service and not a full html page.

I will continue my application but I will stop it before the submission because I don't have any right to communicate without acknowledgement from waarneming.nl and/or waarnemingen.be.
But I think that any alternative will open the discussion  ;)


Best Regards,
Benoît
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op juni 22, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
Hisko,

Could you please take some minutes to evaluate my application.
You will find it here:

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5lUqT9k82eHOWJiOGU1NjUtYWYzMi00NDE0LTk3YWItZWNiZjNlNzgyYTNk&hl=en_US&authkey=CKbVnOUM (https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5lUqT9k82eHOWJiOGU1NjUtYWYzMi00NDE0LTk3YWItZWNiZjNlNzgyYTNk&hl=en_US&authkey=CKbVnOUM)

I developped my application with a quite different approach but the structure is the same than ObsMapp.
The differences are the following:
- Possiblity to encode an observation without any GPS or 3G connection but the GPS is also supported
- Validation of the site when you have a wifi or 3G connection available
- Multilingual (currently NL and FR) depending of the mobile language (default language is currently FR if mobile doesn't use FR or NL)
- The species are downloaded in the mobile language
- Multi-site (currently, Netherlands and Belgium)

But my application is not finished because
- I need to add some features and improvements (Edition, multiple-deletions, add localisation in detail and improve the validation screen)
- I still have some minor bugs
- The application does not upload anything because I need your authorisation

I know that you are very busy with your ObsMapp but I started my development before the availability of ObsMapp and I am sure that multiple application will be a benefit.

Let me know what you thing about,
Benoît

PS: Sorry for any bad translation in Dutch
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: hiskodevries op juni 22, 2011, 14:00:30 PM
Benoit, i installed the apk. and yes it works fine. i downloaded the birdspecieslist specieslist
Why is there a difference to make between belgium and the netherlands ?
is the specieslist depending on this choice ?
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op juni 22, 2011, 15:46:48 PM
Thanks for your quick answer.

The species are dowloaded from the website depending of the selection of the country but I think that currently the list of species are the same (it is just a configuration). This list could be differrent in other countries.

But when you enter a site in an observation in place of the using of GPS, the site will be validate depending of the country (Bruxelles is not accepted in Netherlands and Amsterdam is not accepted in Belgium).

Currently the GPS is not yet validate (tested if it is an observation in the country) before the submission like it is in ObsMapp.
It is an improvement.

The application also accepts multiple taxonomy groups.
If you synchronize again with another tanonomy group, you will be able to report for both taxonomy groups.

Currently, the synchronisation of the same taxonomy group remove all observations without warning (it is a bug).

Benoît
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op juni 29, 2011, 13:42:19 PM
Hisko,

What do you thing about my application?
Do you accept that I continue to develop it in perspective to upload observations?
Do I have to provide you more information about it?

Regards,
Benoît
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: hiskodevries op juni 29, 2011, 14:04:05 PM
Benoit, you must have more patience.
Titel: Re: New Android Application
Bericht door: benseg op september 29, 2011, 10:08:04 AM
Hisko,

Be patient for a feedback is not 6 months in my vocabulary.
You are very closed with your system and I think you are going in the wrong direction.

It is not in this way that you will receive any support about some external initiatives (community).
I see also that all of my features are included version after version in your application.
It was the risk but it was a good experience for me.

Anyway I wish you good success with your app but it will be without me.

Benoît