Requests for missing species / Aanvragen voor ontbrekende soorten

Gestart door hiskodevries, november 16, 2017, 09:22:30 AM

Vorige topic - Volgende topic

JohanvantBosch

Ik wil graag de volgende soort aanvragen:

Coleoptera
Scarabaeidae
Rhabdotis sobrina
Gory & Percheron 1833


http://insecta.pro/taxonomy/975267



Douwe de Boer

Kunnen jullie toevoegen bij Nachtvlinders en Micro's:
   
Familie:   GEOMETRIDAE
Soort:     Menophra serrataria (Walker, 1860)

Referenties:
https://www.africanmoths.com/pages/GEOMETRIDAE/ENNOMINAE/Menophra%20serrataria.html
http://www.afromoths.net/species/show/23452

Bij voorbaat dank,

Douwe de Boer

Douwe van der Ploeg

Douwe van der Ploeg

Douwe de Boer

Kunnen jullie toevoegen bij Kevers:
   
Familie:   Cerambycidae
Genus:    Promeces Audinet-Serville, 1834
Soort:     Promeces longipes (Olivier, 1795)     Engelse naam: Common Metallic Longhorn

Referenties:
https://www.gbif.org/species/5809495
Field Guide to Insects of South Africa M. Picker et al. 2nd ed 2004, p 244

Bij voorbaat dank,

Douwe de Boer

Douwe van der Ploeg

Douwe van der Ploeg

migratorius

#3875
Graag de volgende Dagvlinder toevoegen:

Familie: Nymphalidae
Soort: Euploea hewitsonii
Engelse naam: Hewitson's dwarf crow
Beschrijving: Felder C. & Felder R., 1865

Bron:
http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insecta/lepidoptera/ditrysia/papilionoidea/nymphalidae/danainae/euploea/
https://www.gbif.org/species/5137086

Voor deze waarneming: https://observation.org/observation/159782478/

JanHein

JanHein
:right:

Douwe de Boer

#3876
Citaat van: Douwe de Boer op januari 02, 2021, 18:19:39 PM
Kunnen jullie toevoegen bij Kevers:
   
Familie:   Cerambycidae
Genus:    Promeces Audinet-Serville, 1834
Soort:     Promeces longipes (Olivier, 1795)     Engelse naam: Common Metallic Longhorn

Referenties:
https://www.gbif.org/species/5809495
Field Guide to Insects of South Africa M. Picker et al. 2nd ed 2004, p 244

Bij voorbaat dank,

Douwe de Boer

Bedankt voor het toevoegen! Ik was echter vergeten ook te vragen voor de verzamelsoort, het geslacht bevat namelijk meerder soorten en was nog niet opgenomen.

Familie:   Cerambycidae
Soort:     Promeces spec.

Nogmaals bedankt,

Douwe de Boer :right:

somms

Species: Talpa aquitania
Species group: Mammals
Family: Talpidae
Author: Nicolas, Martinez-Vargas & Hugot, 2017

Reference: https://www.gbif.org/species/9835106
Observation Spain Coordination

somms

Species group: Mammals
Species name: Ovis gmelini
Family: Bovidae
Author: Blyth, 1841

Ovis orientalis has to be marked as synonym of this one following IUCN:
https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/54940218/22147055
Observation Spain Coordination

Joey Bom

#3879
Groep: Weekdieren
Soort: Euryptyxis latireflexa (L. Reeve, 1849)
Familie: Cerastidae
Link: http://www.molluscabase.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1421721

Gelukkig nieuwjaar en alvast bedankt!
:right:

hiskodevries

Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

hiskodevries

Citaat van: somms op januari 03, 2021, 19:40:28 PM
Species group: Mammals
Species name: Ovis gmelini
Family: Bovidae
Author: Blyth, 1841

Ovis orientalis has to be marked as synonym of this one following IUCN:
https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/54940218/22147055
we have quit a lost subspecies for the synonym https://old.observation.org/search_advanced.php?q=ovis+orientalis&exact=0 so i want more input for this change. for example if this is also neccessary for al supspecies
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

somms

Citaat van: hiskodevries op januari 04, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
Citaat van: somms op januari 03, 2021, 19:40:28 PM
Species group: Mammals
Species name: Ovis gmelini
Family: Bovidae
Author: Blyth, 1841

Ovis orientalis has to be marked as synonym of this one following IUCN:
https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/54940218/22147055
we have quit a lost subspecies for the synonym https://old.observation.org/search_advanced.php?q=ovis+orientalis&exact=0 so i want more input for this change. for example if this is also neccessary for al supspecies

This is kind a mess. I am not an expert on this but I have done a review of the Ovis genre using the IUCN webpage and the support of the researchers of the SECEM.

Name O. orientalis is now nomen nudum, and the explanation is splitted in a pair of papers.

Part of it is explained in the IUCNRedlist paper about Ovis gmelini:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020
Citeer
There are three to five autochthonous wild subspecies of Mouflon (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group2000): Armenian  Mouflon  O.  g.  gmelini,  and  two  subspecies  restricted  to  Iran:  O.  g.  isphahanica,  the Esfahan  Mouflon  and  O.  g.  laristanica,  the  Laristan  Mouflon.  Sometimes  the  Anatolian  Mouflon  O.  g.anatolica and the Armenian mouflon O. g. armeniana are considered as subspecies separate from O. g.gmelini.  However,  we  follow  the  former  classification  of  Mouflon  subspecies  in  this  assessment (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group 2000).The Cyprus Mouflon, introduced in prehistoric times, might be a separate subspecies O. g. ophion. “Wildsheep”  found  on  Mediterranean  islands  are  generally  recognized  to  have  been  introduced  by  humans(Shackleton  1997,  Masseti  1998,  Wilson  and  Reeder  2005),  and  genetic  and  archaeo-zoological  studiessuggest  that  they  are  feral  populations  of  ancient  domestic  stocks  (e.g.,  Vigne  1994,  Hiendleder  et  al. 2002). Consequently, such taxa should be included in the respective domestic species (O. aries) (Gentryet  al.  1996,  Gentry  et  al.  2004,  Gippoliti  and  Amori  2004)  and  not  as  subspecies  of  the  wild  taxon  O.gmelini. However, Cyprus Mouflon, in contrast to Corsican and Sardinian mouflons, may originate fromintroduced  wild  stock,  Iran  representing  the  most  credited  region  as  the  source  for  its  ancientintroduction  to  Cyprus,  and  thus  not  be  a  feral  sheep  (Guerrini  et  al.  2015).  Also,  Sanna  et  al.  (2015)noted  high  genetic  distance  observed  between  the  Cyprus  mouflon  and  other  (domestic)  sheephaplogroups,  including  European,  Corsican  and  Sardinian  mouflons,  but  found  the  Cyprus  Mouflon grouping exclusively with Anatolian Mouflon O. g. gmelini [anatolica]. Hiendleder et al. (2002) suggestedthat  likely  candidates  for  truly  wild  ancestors  of  domestic  sheep  are  mouflon  populations  found  in Turkey  and  western  Iran;  thus  genetic  differentiation  of  feral  descendants  of  early  domesticated  fromdescendants  of  true  wild  sheep  is  difficult.  Therefore,  we  include  O.  g.  ophion  in  this  assessment,because of being possibly a wild, but not a feral sheep.

(3) (PDF) Ovis gmelini (Mouflon). The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2020. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020 [accessed Jan 04 2021].

The subspecies set og O. gmelini should be, following the IUCN paper:

  • Ovis orientalis gmelinii -> O. g. gmelini
  • Ovis orientalis isphahanica -> O.  g.  isphahanica
  • Ovis orientalis laristanica ->  O.  g.  laristanica
  • New subspecies: Cyprus Mouflon - O. g. ophion

New species:

Therefore...

Ovis orientalis vignei -> Ovis vignei vignei
Ovis orientalis arkal -> Ovis vignei arkal
Ovis orientalis cycloceros -> Ovis vignei cycloceros
Ovis orientalis bocharensis -> Ovis vignei bocharensis
Ovis orientalis punjabiensis -> Ovis vignei punjabiensis

And the problem comes with Ovis orientalis musimon. Currently, IUCN assigns this subspecies (the European Mouflon) to Ovis aries musimon. IUCN does not describe subspecies and distribution of domestic/semidomesticated species. After a query from the SECEM, this is the answer from the editors of the Handbook of Mammals of Europe:

Citeer
Some authors int he 1970s classified the European mouflon (which is actually composed of Sardianian/Corsican mouflon + Cyprian mouflon) as a full species, Ovis musimon, but…
*   More recently other authors have agreed that -based on genetic and archaeological data- European mouflon actually derive from the Asiatic mouflon Ovis gmelini (Ovis orientalis  should not be used: in the World Congress of Mountain Ungulates in 2016 there was a resolution to adopt Ovis gmelini as the official Latin name for Asiatic mouflon, so Ovis orientalis may enter into homonymy).
*   So far so good: because Ovis musimon and Ovis orientalis should not be used, Ovis gmelini should be the way to go, so that in the end, the Sardiania/Corsican mouflon can be designated as Ovis gmelini musimon, and the Cyprian mouflon and Ovis gmelini ophion.
This is the classification that is currently being used for the forthcoming Handbook of the Mammals of Europe (which I guess you can cite as a reference, though is currently still under construction).

I don’t wanna complicate the picture, but there is actually a complication here that must be mentioned. The official position of the ICZN (International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature) up to 2004, is that the Sardinian/Corsican mouflon have undergone a predomestication phase, so they should be considered as a subspecies of domestic sheep, Ovis aries musimon. However, based on recent archaeological and genetic evidences, other authors consider these mouflon as the relicts of the very first domesticated Asiatic mouflon readapted to feral life, and give strong support for ranking them as subspecies of Asiatic mouflon (so, again, Ovis gmelini musimon).

We have contacted Juan Herrero, from the IUCN Capridae team, to clarify this situation. It seems that this is going to be the change, but we are still waiting for an answer:

Ovis orientalis musimon -> Ovis aries musimon

Regards.


Observation Spain Coordination

hiskodevries

i will have a mammal expert taxonomist have a look and try to solve this genus. In the past we had several exercises on this genus.
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

Douwe van der Ploeg

Citaat van: hiskodevries op januari 04, 2021, 07:42:44 AM
Citaat van: somms op januari 03, 2021, 19:11:48 PM
Species: Talpa aquitania
Species group: Mammals
Family: Talpidae
Author: Nicolas, Martinez-Vargas & Hugot, 2017

Reference: https://www.gbif.org/species/9835106
i can not find this species on iucn redlist https://www.iucnredlist.org/search?query=Talpa%20aquitania&searchType=species

As it was described after IUCN's most recent update on this genus, and seems to be widely recognized, I've added this preemptively. Will keep an eye on IUCN, though, if they make a different decision in some time we might change it to subspecies / synonym based on their findings. but at least the name / taxon is available now.
Douwe van der Ploeg

Douwe van der Ploeg

Citaat van: somms op januari 04, 2021, 12:00:34 PM
Citaat van: hiskodevries op januari 04, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
Citaat van: somms op januari 03, 2021, 19:40:28 PM
Species group: Mammals
Species name: Ovis gmelini
Family: Bovidae
Author: Blyth, 1841

Ovis orientalis has to be marked as synonym of this one following IUCN:
https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/54940218/22147055
we have quit a lost subspecies for the synonym https://old.observation.org/search_advanced.php?q=ovis+orientalis&exact=0 so i want more input for this change. for example if this is also neccessary for al supspecies

This is kind a mess. I am not an expert on this but I have done a review of the Ovis genre using the IUCN webpage and the support of the researchers of the SECEM.

Name O. orientalis is now nomen nudum, and the explanation is splitted in a pair of papers.

Part of it is explained in the IUCNRedlist paper about Ovis gmelini:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020
Citeer
There are three to five autochthonous wild subspecies of Mouflon (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group2000): Armenian  Mouflon  O.  g.  gmelini,  and  two  subspecies  restricted  to  Iran:  O.  g.  isphahanica,  the Esfahan  Mouflon  and  O.  g.  laristanica,  the  Laristan  Mouflon.  Sometimes  the  Anatolian  Mouflon  O.  g.anatolica and the Armenian mouflon O. g. armeniana are considered as subspecies separate from O. g.gmelini.  However,  we  follow  the  former  classification  of  Mouflon  subspecies  in  this  assessment (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group 2000).The Cyprus Mouflon, introduced in prehistoric times, might be a separate subspecies O. g. ophion. “Wildsheep”  found  on  Mediterranean  islands  are  generally  recognized  to  have  been  introduced  by  humans(Shackleton  1997,  Masseti  1998,  Wilson  and  Reeder  2005),  and  genetic  and  archaeo-zoological  studiessuggest  that  they  are  feral  populations  of  ancient  domestic  stocks  (e.g.,  Vigne  1994,  Hiendleder  et  al. 2002). Consequently, such taxa should be included in the respective domestic species (O. aries) (Gentryet  al.  1996,  Gentry  et  al.  2004,  Gippoliti  and  Amori  2004)  and  not  as  subspecies  of  the  wild  taxon  O.gmelini. However, Cyprus Mouflon, in contrast to Corsican and Sardinian mouflons, may originate fromintroduced  wild  stock,  Iran  representing  the  most  credited  region  as  the  source  for  its  ancientintroduction  to  Cyprus,  and  thus  not  be  a  feral  sheep  (Guerrini  et  al.  2015).  Also,  Sanna  et  al.  (2015)noted  high  genetic  distance  observed  between  the  Cyprus  mouflon  and  other  (domestic)  sheephaplogroups,  including  European,  Corsican  and  Sardinian  mouflons,  but  found  the  Cyprus  Mouflon grouping exclusively with Anatolian Mouflon O. g. gmelini [anatolica]. Hiendleder et al. (2002) suggestedthat  likely  candidates  for  truly  wild  ancestors  of  domestic  sheep  are  mouflon  populations  found  in Turkey  and  western  Iran;  thus  genetic  differentiation  of  feral  descendants  of  early  domesticated  fromdescendants  of  true  wild  sheep  is  difficult.  Therefore,  we  include  O.  g.  ophion  in  this  assessment,because of being possibly a wild, but not a feral sheep.

(3) (PDF) Ovis gmelini (Mouflon). The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2020. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020 [accessed Jan 04 2021].

The subspecies set og O. gmelini should be, following the IUCN paper:

  • Ovis orientalis gmelinii -> O. g. gmelini
  • Ovis orientalis isphahanica -> O.  g.  isphahanica
  • Ovis orientalis laristanica ->  O.  g.  laristanica
  • New subspecies: Cyprus Mouflon - O. g. ophion

New species:

Therefore...

Ovis orientalis vignei -> Ovis vignei vignei
Ovis orientalis arkal -> Ovis vignei arkal
Ovis orientalis cycloceros -> Ovis vignei cycloceros
Ovis orientalis bocharensis -> Ovis vignei bocharensis
Ovis orientalis punjabiensis -> Ovis vignei punjabiensis

And the problem comes with Ovis orientalis musimon. Currently, IUCN assigns this subspecies (the European Mouflon) to Ovis aries musimon. IUCN does not describe subspecies and distribution of domestic/semidomesticated species. After a query from the SECEM, this is the answer from the editors of the Handbook of Mammals of Europe:

Citeer
Some authors int he 1970s classified the European mouflon (which is actually composed of Sardianian/Corsican mouflon + Cyprian mouflon) as a full species, Ovis musimon, but…
*   More recently other authors have agreed that -based on genetic and archaeological data- European mouflon actually derive from the Asiatic mouflon Ovis gmelini (Ovis orientalis  should not be used: in the World Congress of Mountain Ungulates in 2016 there was a resolution to adopt Ovis gmelini as the official Latin name for Asiatic mouflon, so Ovis orientalis may enter into homonymy).
*   So far so good: because Ovis musimon and Ovis orientalis should not be used, Ovis gmelini should be the way to go, so that in the end, the Sardiania/Corsican mouflon can be designated as Ovis gmelini musimon, and the Cyprian mouflon and Ovis gmelini ophion.
This is the classification that is currently being used for the forthcoming Handbook of the Mammals of Europe (which I guess you can cite as a reference, though is currently still under construction).

I don’t wanna complicate the picture, but there is actually a complication here that must be mentioned. The official position of the ICZN (International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature) up to 2004, is that the Sardinian/Corsican mouflon have undergone a predomestication phase, so they should be considered as a subspecies of domestic sheep, Ovis aries musimon. However, based on recent archaeological and genetic evidences, other authors consider these mouflon as the relicts of the very first domesticated Asiatic mouflon readapted to feral life, and give strong support for ranking them as subspecies of Asiatic mouflon (so, again, Ovis gmelini musimon).

We have contacted Juan Herrero, from the IUCN Capridae team, to clarify this situation. It seems that this is going to be the change, but we are still waiting for an answer:

Ovis orientalis musimon -> Ovis aries musimon

Regards.

Thanks for the excellent overview, all this does make some good sense. I'll happily update the genus to fit with current IUCN taxonomy tonight. Will have a think on how to best call that domesticated one for now, but I'm inclined to just make that change and wait for the latest updates / overviews, as it's a domesticated entry anyways.

Was pondering about this group a few days ago anyways, so happy to get this cleaned up a bit better!
Douwe van der Ploeg

somms

Citaat van: Douwe van der Ploeg op januari 04, 2021, 18:06:02 PM
Citaat van: somms op januari 04, 2021, 12:00:34 PM
Citaat van: hiskodevries op januari 04, 2021, 07:46:27 AM
Citaat van: somms op januari 03, 2021, 19:40:28 PM
Species group: Mammals
Species name: Ovis gmelini
Family: Bovidae
Author: Blyth, 1841

Ovis orientalis has to be marked as synonym of this one following IUCN:
https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/54940218/22147055
we have quit a lost subspecies for the synonym https://old.observation.org/search_advanced.php?q=ovis+orientalis&exact=0 so i want more input for this change. for example if this is also neccessary for al supspecies

This is kind a mess. I am not an expert on this but I have done a review of the Ovis genre using the IUCN webpage and the support of the researchers of the SECEM.

Name O. orientalis is now nomen nudum, and the explanation is splitted in a pair of papers.

Part of it is explained in the IUCNRedlist paper about Ovis gmelini:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020
Citeer
There are three to five autochthonous wild subspecies of Mouflon (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group2000): Armenian  Mouflon  O.  g.  gmelini,  and  two  subspecies  restricted  to  Iran:  O.  g.  isphahanica,  the Esfahan  Mouflon  and  O.  g.  laristanica,  the  Laristan  Mouflon.  Sometimes  the  Anatolian  Mouflon  O.  g.anatolica and the Armenian mouflon O. g. armeniana are considered as subspecies separate from O. g.gmelini.  However,  we  follow  the  former  classification  of  Mouflon  subspecies  in  this  assessment (IUCN/SSC Caprinae Specialist Group 2000).The Cyprus Mouflon, introduced in prehistoric times, might be a separate subspecies O. g. ophion. “Wildsheep”  found  on  Mediterranean  islands  are  generally  recognized  to  have  been  introduced  by  humans(Shackleton  1997,  Masseti  1998,  Wilson  and  Reeder  2005),  and  genetic  and  archaeo-zoological  studiessuggest  that  they  are  feral  populations  of  ancient  domestic  stocks  (e.g.,  Vigne  1994,  Hiendleder  et  al. 2002). Consequently, such taxa should be included in the respective domestic species (O. aries) (Gentryet  al.  1996,  Gentry  et  al.  2004,  Gippoliti  and  Amori  2004)  and  not  as  subspecies  of  the  wild  taxon  O.gmelini. However, Cyprus Mouflon, in contrast to Corsican and Sardinian mouflons, may originate fromintroduced  wild  stock,  Iran  representing  the  most  credited  region  as  the  source  for  its  ancientintroduction  to  Cyprus,  and  thus  not  be  a  feral  sheep  (Guerrini  et  al.  2015).  Also,  Sanna  et  al.  (2015)noted  high  genetic  distance  observed  between  the  Cyprus  mouflon  and  other  (domestic)  sheephaplogroups,  including  European,  Corsican  and  Sardinian  mouflons,  but  found  the  Cyprus  Mouflon grouping exclusively with Anatolian Mouflon O. g. gmelini [anatolica]. Hiendleder et al. (2002) suggestedthat  likely  candidates  for  truly  wild  ancestors  of  domestic  sheep  are  mouflon  populations  found  in Turkey  and  western  Iran;  thus  genetic  differentiation  of  feral  descendants  of  early  domesticated  fromdescendants  of  true  wild  sheep  is  difficult.  Therefore,  we  include  O.  g.  ophion  in  this  assessment,because of being possibly a wild, but not a feral sheep.

(3) (PDF) Ovis gmelini (Mouflon). The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species 2020. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343181028_Ovis_gmelini_Mouflon_The_IUCN_Red_List_of_Threatened_Species_2020 [accessed Jan 04 2021].

The subspecies set og O. gmelini should be, following the IUCN paper:

  • Ovis orientalis gmelinii -> O. g. gmelini
  • Ovis orientalis isphahanica -> O.  g.  isphahanica
  • Ovis orientalis laristanica ->  O.  g.  laristanica
  • New subspecies: Cyprus Mouflon - O. g. ophion

New species:

Therefore...

Ovis orientalis vignei -> Ovis vignei vignei
Ovis orientalis arkal -> Ovis vignei arkal
Ovis orientalis cycloceros -> Ovis vignei cycloceros
Ovis orientalis bocharensis -> Ovis vignei bocharensis
Ovis orientalis punjabiensis -> Ovis vignei punjabiensis

And the problem comes with Ovis orientalis musimon. Currently, IUCN assigns this subspecies (the European Mouflon) to Ovis aries musimon. IUCN does not describe subspecies and distribution of domestic/semidomesticated species. After a query from the SECEM, this is the answer from the editors of the Handbook of Mammals of Europe:

Citeer
Some authors int he 1970s classified the European mouflon (which is actually composed of Sardianian/Corsican mouflon + Cyprian mouflon) as a full species, Ovis musimon, but…
*   More recently other authors have agreed that -based on genetic and archaeological data- European mouflon actually derive from the Asiatic mouflon Ovis gmelini (Ovis orientalis  should not be used: in the World Congress of Mountain Ungulates in 2016 there was a resolution to adopt Ovis gmelini as the official Latin name for Asiatic mouflon, so Ovis orientalis may enter into homonymy).
*   So far so good: because Ovis musimon and Ovis orientalis should not be used, Ovis gmelini should be the way to go, so that in the end, the Sardiania/Corsican mouflon can be designated as Ovis gmelini musimon, and the Cyprian mouflon and Ovis gmelini ophion.
This is the classification that is currently being used for the forthcoming Handbook of the Mammals of Europe (which I guess you can cite as a reference, though is currently still under construction).

I don’t wanna complicate the picture, but there is actually a complication here that must be mentioned. The official position of the ICZN (International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature) up to 2004, is that the Sardinian/Corsican mouflon have undergone a predomestication phase, so they should be considered as a subspecies of domestic sheep, Ovis aries musimon. However, based on recent archaeological and genetic evidences, other authors consider these mouflon as the relicts of the very first domesticated Asiatic mouflon readapted to feral life, and give strong support for ranking them as subspecies of Asiatic mouflon (so, again, Ovis gmelini musimon).

We have contacted Juan Herrero, from the IUCN Capridae team, to clarify this situation. It seems that this is going to be the change, but we are still waiting for an answer:

Ovis orientalis musimon -> Ovis aries musimon

Regards.

Thanks for the excellent overview, all this does make some good sense. I'll happily update the genus to fit with current IUCN taxonomy tonight. Will have a think on how to best call that domesticated one for now, but I'm inclined to just make that change and wait for the latest updates / overviews, as it's a domesticated entry anyways.

Was pondering about this group a few days ago anyways, so happy to get this cleaned up a bit better!

Thanks a lot, Douwe.

All the best
Julio
Observation Spain Coordination

vs.vanbergen

Groep: Paddenstoelen
Soort: Morchella importuna (M.Kuo, O'Donnell & T.J.Volk 2012)
Familie: Morchellaceae
Link: https://www.mycobank.org/page/Name%20details%20page/field/Mycobank%20%23/563958

hiskodevries

Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

armin.dahl

Hi together,
the following european species and subspecies are missing
Mollusca Gastropoda Carychiidae

Zospeum Bourguignat, 1856  (Author ist still missing)
    Zospeum allegrettii Conci, 1956
    Zospeum alpestre (Freyer, 1855)  (Author is still missing!)
    Zospeum alpestre subsp. alpestre (Freyer, 1855)
    Zospeum alpestre subsp. bolei Slapnik, 1991
    Zospeum alpestre subsp. kupitzense A. Stummer, 1984
    Zospeum alpestre subsp. likanum Bole, 1960
    Zospeum amoenum (Frauenfeld, 1856)
    Zospeum bellesi E. Gittenberger, 1973
    Zospeum biscaiense Gómez & Prieto, 1983
    Zospeum cariadeghense Allegretti, 1944
    Zospeum exiguum Kuscer, 1932
    Zospeum frauenfeldi (Freyer, 1855)
    Zospeum frauenfeldi subsp. frauenfeldi (Freyer, 1855)
    Zospeum frauenfeldi subsp. osolei Slapnik, 1994
    Zospeum galvagnii Conci, 1956
    Zospeum globosum Kuscer, 1928
    Zospeum isselianum Pollonera, 1887
    Zospeum kusceri A.J. Wagner, 1912
    Zospeum lautum (Frauenfeld, 1854)
    Zospeum obesum (Frauenfeld, 1854)
    Zospeum pretneri Bole, 1960
    Zospeum schaufussi Frauenfeld, 1862
    Zospeum spelaeum (Rossmassler, 1839)
    Zospeum spelaeum subsp. costatum (Freyer, 1855)

source of the information:
https://fauna-eu.org/cdm_dataportal/taxon/c5557edf-58f5-4940-b28b-7c94db91f2a6

Best regards and thanks!
Armin

Armin: https://observation.org/users/116008/
A fool is a man who never tried an experiment in his life. - Erasmus Darwin

hiskodevries

#3890
fauna eur is not the best taxonomic source
for this group you should use Worms
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1000413
i see another family name and this is a synonym
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=738076

These https://observation.org/search/?q=Zospeum are available
Was getekend Hisko de Vries.

Wil je een fotovraag stellen op het forum lees dan dit eerst https://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=452369.0

Remco Hofland

#3891
Gaarne aanmaken deze

ARTHROPODA (OTHER ARTHROPODS)

Persian Freshwater Crab
Potamon persicum Pretzmann, 1962
Fam: Potamidae
(Iran, 25-4-19)

https://www.gbif.org/species/5790054

http://portugal.inaturalist.org/taxa/110238-Potamon-persicum

https://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=458143

Rounded Ghost Crab
Ocypode rotundata Miers, 1882
Fam: Ocypodidae
(Iran, 16-4-19)

https://www.sealifebase.ca/summary/Ocypode-rotundata.html

https://www.enature.qa/specie/ocypode-rotundata/

COLEOPTERA

(Ondersoort)
Pentodon algerinum Herbst, 1789
Pentodon algerinum tchadense (Paulin, 1954)
Fam: Dynastidae
(Senegal, 24-2-20)

https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Pentodon_algerinum/classification/

http://www.troglorites.fr/Senegal/Dynastidae.html

Hyperops tagenoides Eschscholtz, 1831
Fam: Tenebrionidae
(Senegal, 27-2-20)

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ENT_0023_0353-0380.pdf

http://www.troglorites.fr/Senegal/Senegal/Tenebrionidae_1.html

Zophosis trilineata (Olivier, 1795)
Fam: Tenebrionidae
(Senegal, 22-2-20)

http://www.troglorites.fr/Senegal/Tenebrionidae_1.html

http://www.arc.sci.eg/ejar/UploadFiles/Publications/937270البحث%20الرابع%20وقاية%20نباتات.pdf

Zophosis quadrilineata (Olivier, 1795)
Fam: Tenebrionidae
(Senegal, 26-2-20)

http://www.tenebrionidae.net/simplephpgallery-2/sp_index.php?file=./T-Z/Zophosis%20quadrilineata%20(olivier,%201795).jpg

http://www.troglorites.fr/Senegal/Tenebrionidae_1.html

DIPTERA

(Genus)
Hermya Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830
Fam: Tachinidae
(Taiwan, 29-5-09)

https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Hermya/classification/

Bij voorbaat dank,

Remco Hofland
:right:

Joachim

#3892
Graag drie Noord-Amerikaanse hybriden toevoegen :)

Groep: vogels
soort: Bucephala islandica x Bucephala clangula
Nederlands: Ijslandse Brilduiker x Brilduiker
auteur: ?
familie: Anatidae
Bron: https://ebird.org/media/catalog?taxonCode=cxbgol1&q=Common%20x%20Barrow%27s%20Goldeneye%20(hybrid)%20-%20Bucephala%20clangula%20x%20islandica

Groep: vogels
soort: Larus smithsonianus x Larus hyperboreus
Nederlands: Amerikaanse Zilvermeeuw x Grote Burgemeester
Engels: American Herring Gull x Glaucous Gull
auteur: ?
familie: Laridae
Bron: https://ebird.org/media/catalog?taxonCode=nelgul&q=Herring%20x%20Glaucous%20Gull%20(hybrid)%20-%20Larus%20argentatus%20x%20hyperboreus

Groep: vogels
soort: Aechmophorus occidentalis x Aechmophorus clarkii
Engels: Western Grebe x Clark's Grebe
auteur: ?
familie: Podicipedididae
Bron: https://ebird.org/media/catalog?taxonCode=x00427&q=Western%20x%20Clark%27s%20Grebe%20(hybrid)%20-%20Aechmophorus%20occidentalis%20x%20clarkii
:right:

Bart Roelandt 🐚

Hallo,

Graag volgende soort toegevoegd:

Macomopsis melo
geen Nederlandse naam
(G. B. Sowerby II, 1866)
Weekdieren
Tellinidae (Platschelpen e.a.)
Bron: WORMS http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=879922

Vriendelijke groet,

Bart Roelandt
Waarneming beheerder mariene weekdieren

armin.dahl

Citaat van: hiskodevries op januari 06, 2021, 15:08:39 PM
fauna eur is not the best taxonomic source
for this group you should use Worms
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1000413
i see another family name and this is a synonym
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=738076

These https://observation.org/search/?q=Zospeum are available

Hisko, these are landsnails that live in caves, and the faunaeur-group fits well.
see for example (from my former life  ;) )
https://observation.org/observation/205296373/
Armin: https://observation.org/users/116008/
A fool is a man who never tried an experiment in his life. - Erasmus Darwin

Douwe van der Ploeg

Citaat van: roelanbart op januari 07, 2021, 17:32:10 PM
Hallo,

Graag volgende soort toegevoegd:

Macomopsis melo
geen Nederlandse naam
(G. B. Sowerby II, 1866)
Weekdieren
Tellinidae (Platschelpen e.a.)
Bron: WORMS http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=879922

Vriendelijke groet,

Bart Roelandt
Waarneming beheerder mariene weekdieren

:right:
Douwe van der Ploeg



Jan-Jaap Spaargaren

Hallo,
Kan deze slakkensoort worden toegevoegd?:

Nassarius crenoliratus

Classification
Biota Animalia (Kingdom) Mollusca (Phylum) Gastropoda (Class) Caenogastropoda (Subclass) Neogastropoda (Order) Buccinoidea (Superfamily) Nassariidae (Family) Nassariinae (Subfamily) Nassarius (Genus) Nassarius crenoliratus (Species)

http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=560174
http://www.gastropods.com/4/Shell_7264.shtml
http://www.eurasiashells.net/fam_nassariidae.html

Betreft deze waarneming:
https://observation.org/observation/184214845/

mvg Jan-Jaap

Douwe van der Ploeg

Douwe van der Ploeg